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12 Minute Interview

January 25, 2017 // R. Shawn McBride // No Comments »

Egal: Hi, this is Egal Jones. I love great conversations where life’s journey is communicated through not only words but also tunes and emotions. Explosive Express allows you feel what they felt and learned. A fool learns only from his mistakes, while the wise learn from their own and those others have made. Thanks for being her with us.

Good night, Shawn McBride. How are you doing on this wonderful, beautiful night?

Shawn: I am loving life. I have had a good day and just enjoying it. Now we get a chance to chat and meet somebody new. It is always fun.

Egal: Wonderful, It is always fun to meet someone new. It is my honor to meet with you. Where are you in the world, Shawn?

Shawn: I am in Dallas. Well, I am based in Dallas. I am actually in Florida right now. I am typically in Dallas as home base.

Egal: You are close. You are close to the Caribbean man. That is great. Tell me, which of your talents Shawn is responsible for us meeting?

Shawn: I think it is networking. I know many people in the world, and I have been doing much public speaking. Through some of my contacts in the public speaking world, they mentioned that you were doing the podcast 12-minute interviews. I saw the link, and I said “Okay. Why not so this? Sounds like a fun thing.”

Egal: Who did you learn the skill of speaking from?

Shawn: I learned it over the years. I studied a little bit in college and high school but did not have a passion for it. I became a lawyer, started working with business owners, and as the journey happened, I started speaking a little bit here and there. I looked at my client list, and I said: “You know, I should be speaking more because many of my good clients I met through speak engagements.” So, I became more intentional about it.

Egal: Tell me, what is the passion part of speaking? Is it the beginning, the middle of what you are saying or the ending?

Shawn: I am an educator at heart. I like people. I like spreading messages you know. Speaking gives me a chance to get in front of people and to help them find their way.

Egal: Interesting, you are speaking specifically to what?

Shawn: I have a signature keynote called The 3 Laws of Empowerment. It is really about planning. It focuses a lot on companies and building companies that last stand the test of time. It is a message I am very passionate about. I think people need to be more intentional about their planning and make sure that they have their risks covered. When people do that kind of preparation and planning, they are setting themselves up on a path to success.

Egal: I love it. I love it. Why will you continue to speak the way you are speaking currently?

Shawn: I just love it. It is something I got to enjoy really, and I intend to continue it. It is fun for me. It is enriching. It changes lives. I have had people that have either seen me present The 3 Laws of Empowerment live, or I have a book that matches it. We are editing and adjusting right now, but a couple of people have read it. They say they changed their career paths. They changed their life’s path. That keeps me going. We are helping people.

Egal: Wow! Tell me about Business Blunders before we go in. Business Blunders, the book.

Shawn: Business Blunders is my first book. It just came out earlier this year. It is about mistakes we have seen business owners make. Practicing as an attorney, I had clients that came to me a little too late. They had got themselves into a problem or a situation, and they were looking for a solution. I said, “Why don’t we fix these things before they became a problem?” Therefore, I chronicled ten common mistakes I saw business owners make, put them all in one place. The business owner who wants to avoid problems can kind of use this as a checklist. Making sure that I am protecting myself in these various ways and that they use this. It usually helps them find a place or two where they can make their business stronger, where they can strengthen themselves. That helps save problems before they happen.

Egal: Interesting, let me now I am the business blunderer, right. So, let me hear. Give me one. I will tell you if I did it. Let me see if I am on that list.

Shawn: One blunder I have is when you form a company; many people assume just because they formed a company that they have liability protection. That is not always the case. Especially in the US, there is a lot of litigation going on, and people will try to poke holes in it. We tell people it is not just forming with the state. It is not just doing that, but you have to run yourself like a company. Keep the right books and records and treat yourself formally to protect your personal assets. Many people make the assumption that oh I filed with the state, I must be good. I do not have to worry about this anymore. It is not quite that simple.

Egal: Well, I have not made that one as yet. It is different in Trinidad. It is different.

Shawn: You do live in a different environment. We are just very litigious in the US.

Egal: You guys, well not you, but there is so much swing going on. It is like wow. You could get sued for having water on the floor, and someone slips and falls. Right?

Shawn: Well, it is an allocation of risk. The US likes to place blame, or place responsibility. It does force people to be more careful, which is the positive side of it. Business owners will go out and take more care because they do not want to get sued. At other times, it just gets ridiculous. People sue for things many people say why that was a lawsuit; it was not that bad.

Egal: So, tell me one thing. I am glad I am not in your book, but you know what … the things about learning about mistakes like I said, you know. The fool learns from his mistakes while the wise learn from their mistakes and the mistakes that others have made. That is the great beauty of your book. That is why I will “buy,” because, hey, if I can look at the mistakes that other make, if I am opening up a business in the US, then cool. You know, it helps me not to make blunders. Right?

Shawn: Exactly, We can all learn from each other, you know. That is right. We are all going to make mistakes. We are all going to have problems, but if we get ahead of it, if we start looking at what other people have done and learn from them, then we just speed up our learning. We stop many problems before they happen.

Egal: Yeah, I love that. Share with me one thing Shawn, you have done consistently over the past three years, please.

Shawn: I am a consistent reader. We just talked a second ago about books. That is one thing I am always doing; I am learning lessons. I will see weak spots in my business or weak spots in my professional abilities, places where I can be better, and I will say “Okay, let’s get some more skill in that area.” We will step it up a level, and we will step it up a level. I think consistently learning from others, being open to new information. Books are one of my primary sources of learning from others is – what have other people encountered, what have they done, what lessons can I take from them?

Egal: How does it make you feel?

Shawn: It empowers me. I talk a lot about the word “empowerment.” It is something that I kind of as I worked with business owners and been a lawyer and kind of pulled this message together, it is something I think about a lot. You can empower yourself. We all have the power to be who we want to be. To build the lives and careers we want. As you become more intentional, you get more power. As I learn more and am more able to develop skills and to round myself out and build the life and business I want, you feel more and more empowered. You feel like you are in control of things. You can be intentional and set the direction that you want to go.

Egal: Suggest to someone over there. Why they should do what you have done.

Shawn: I think it just feels good to be able to be whom you want to be. As I have worked with successful business owners over the year, as I see themes among the successful, they have businesses that reflect their personalities; they reflect who they are. How wonderful is that, to be able to go to work every day or to engage in what you love and be the person you are and not have to pretend to be somebody else, or not have to fit into somebody else’s boxes. That is what I encourage everybody to do, is take a close look at who you are and what you are doing. Are you whom you want to be?

Egal: Love that. Love that. To the start of this conversation, you said that. Right? You love people who set big goals and go after their dreams because they love it. Right? It is very important, plan well so you can continue to do it. Right?

Shawn: You do not want just to be an event. You want it to be a lifetime, a career, a calling. You do not want to get there and then lose it. Unfortunately being the lawyer and having worked with some business owners, I have seen some people build some really nice stuff, but then they lose it because they did not take the right steps to protect themselves. They got into a dispute with their business partner. Various things happen that cause them not to get what they deserve. Work hard. Build what you want, but then also, make sure you get to keep it, you get to protect yourself.

Egal: Love it. Let us switch gears for a bit now Shawn. Let me invite into my time machine that is surrounded by beautiful, warm, blue Caribbean water. Shawn, what is your earliest childhood memory?

Shawn: I remember when we were very young and my father took me to work with him. It was Christmas. They were having some odd thing going on. He worked in the steel mill. For whatever reason, he had to take me with him. He took me with him, and he put me in the lady’s bathroom because he was out there working with his co-workers and there were no ladies in the office. So, I spent part of the day in the lady’s bathroom because my father had to work.

Egal: Wow! That was fun.

Shawn: Well, you know, I was a kid, and I was still at that age where you do what you are told, and I just remember. It was nice being at work with my father. It was just one of those things where I was young and did not think much about it. It was just nice to be work with my father, and I spent the day there.

Egal: Wow! Why do you think this memory is so clean?

Shawn: It was different. It was unusual. I think it was not your everyday event. I have always been close with my parents. I am an only child. I bonded with them. Even at that young age, just seeing part of my parent’s lives that I did not normally get to see. You are used to being at home, and parent’s come home to you, and you have that environment that you are used to, and now I was in a different environment.

Egal: So tell me, if we fast forward to when you were 12, what was your favorite song, Shawn?

Shawn: You know, I loved that song La Mamba. That was a very popular song and you know I was a little bit older at that point even when I was 12. For whatever reason, I do not know if it was a different cultural song or what enticed me with that song, but I found it interesting. It is musically different from other songs that were on the radio.

Egal: All right my friend. We have arrived at our destination, but before we get off of this time machine, there is more declaration form, yes, or no. Shawn, have you chosen someone to pass on your skills to?

Shawn: You know I do not have one mentee, but I have had several over the years. I love to educate. That is one of the reasons I speak, and that is one of the reasons I train. I have people that have come into my life at different times, and I always have a couple of mentees at a given time. I have people that I am working with.

Egal: Are you married?

Shawn: Nope. I am Single.

Egal: Do you have children?

Shawn: Nope. I don’t have children at this point.

Egal: Do you believe in God?

Shawn: I believe in a higher power. I believe there is something that has ordered this and created this. I am not sure exactly what that is defined as.

Egal: Do you have an inner circle of friends?

Shawn: I do.

Egal: Do you watch TV for more than three hours a day?

Shawn: No.

Egal: How about three hours a week?

Shawn: During football season.

Egal: All right. How about screen time. How about screen time. Do you do more than eight hours or less than eight hours on the phone or the computer?

Shawn: At the computer, I probably would average eight hours a day, I would think.

Egal: Okay. Shawn, this was a great pleasure man. Before you leave, is there anything you would like to share with our amazing audience?

Shawn: I just think it is amazing that you are spreading this word in everybody and I think to protect yourself. Look for where you are. Be intentional about your plans. Don’t be a passenger in life. Grab the reins. Start building direction that you want to go.

Egal: Love it. Love it, Shawn. Hey, Shawn McBride, thank you for being on 12 Minute Convos with Egal Jones.


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